Season Two - Fall 2020

Welcome to Season 2, Round 2 of  The Dap Project podcast. We are  seven plus months into the global pandemic, economic recession, and reinvigorated pursuit for equity and justice.  We have a lot to discuss, question, examine, and definitely ... to laugh about.  2020 has been quite the decade. The brotherhood, the love, the support and encouragement that comes through this season, matches and exceeds much of what we were able to bring to you in Season One.


We begin Season Two with an intimate conversation with filmmaker Denver Edmonds, a student at Spelman college, who wrote and directed the short film The Dap. Her singular agenda to use her gift to pursue black liberation is a resonant theme in all of our conversations with non-profit leaders, entrepreneurs, educators, creatives, and artists. Our guests this season are Presidential Leadership Scholars, dope DJs, twins, a vocalist and consultant. We were also fortunate to talk with two brothers with first hand accounts of dap during the Vietnam war.  Each welcoming dap that this bunch of dope lady and gentlemen extend (virtually, of course) is an invitation to understand their perspective on the world, and how their love of the culture fuels their pursuit of liberation for the culture.   In a period where faith seems a futile exercise, they remind us that we’ll be okay, and that we will save us. 

The Dap Project loves and appreciates that you are taking time to soak up each drop of the culture that our guests are sharing.  So subscribe to the podcast on Apple -- we’re aiming for a buck of subscribers, rate us, leave a comment with your favorite line, and follow us on social media at The Dap Project. 

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Season 2 Finale

The final episode of Season 2 is a personal conversation with two brothers who tell the story of growing up in Washington DC in the 1960s, with a guest appearance by the cool-ass cousin who taught them the dap.  

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Adrian & Jamil

The subject of music emerges in every dap conversation, possibly because dap itself is rhythmic: the beat of coming in, the sounds of hands clasping, then snapping, the step back and smile (or nah, depending). DJs and long-term friends Jamil Hamilton and Adrian Loving know music well, and that we need it now more than ever. Our conversation begins in Far Northeast DC — “over by the Shrimp Boat” — blossoms at The Mecca (Howard University), and lands on the turntables in perfect time.

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Chike & Byron

A quarter life crisis led CEO of Big Thought Byron Sanders to write his personal mission statement, which he recited at a leadership development program. Chike Aguh, of the Equity Design Lab,  was in that room and approached Bryon with a proper dap that initiated their brotherhood.  Our conversation, which travels from a small town outside of Lagos to the boardroom in Dallas, explores authenticity, dismantling oppression, and, of course, dap.

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Kris & Keagoe

Today, twin brothers Kristopher and Keagoe Stith are, respectively, a graphic designer based in Washington, DC, and a visual arts teacher in Brooklyn, New York. But in 2004, when Rhonda happened to be their summer camp director, they were your typical middle school boys growing up in the nation’s capital: curious, savvy, and obsessed with drawing. Our conversation picks up from there...

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Olu & Ab

Olutosin Burrell and Aaron “Ab” Abernathy met at Howard University with a shared passion for music and the creative “Love Jones” life. After graduating Ab developed a professional career singing, playing the piano, and traveled the world. Olu, a Covid-19 survivor, influences the local government as a facilitator and executive coach. We talk about giving dap at the rec center, what is required to create an anti-racist culture, and why dap is a radical expression. 


As we listen to hours of discussions about dap through The Dap Project, we hear familiar refrains: "my dad taught me," "it's a show of respect," "it's love." Yet we gained new understanding about dap from the Sierra Leonian origins of handshakes to the prohibition of the Black Power Salute in the US military. "Dignity and Pride" remains steadfast in our expression through this nuanced and telling gesture.


The Dap 

Season One - Summer 2020


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This is our very first interview, and it sounds like our very first interview! We sat down with TDP Family for this one.  David is Rhonda's younger brother and Darnell aka Cuzzo is, of course, Rhonda's cousin.  We had some brief introductions, proceeded to pour a little wine and a little Uncle Nearest, then we sat around Rhonda's dining room table to begin our first dig into some of the fundamentals of Dap.



Les joined us, via Zoom, back in April to share his take on Dap. Les is a long time friend and an extraordinary business man. Most folks that know Les will label him as the guy that seems to know everyone.  Les connects friends and business associates as easily as he connects Dap to the culture of Black men.  Unless of course those men happen to be Clarence Thomas or Ben Carson.  This chat is full of energy, laughter and keen insight on all things Dap!




Nearly every cool point Rhonda earned was courtesy of my Skai's instruction. Rhonda and Skai have talked about a lot of things, but this was a special conversation. Skai shares how dap appears in multiple spaces: DC coffee shops, work at Shell Oil, and with his in-laws. Listen for the touching conversation between Skai and Aaron about giving dap to their children.



Over the years, we’ve had really deep conversations with Lael and Winfred, and I knew these two would be fascinating guests. But they totally exceeded expectations! From Winfred riffing on his Uncle Anderson, to Lael talking truth about giving dap in the halls of power, this was such a great talk. You can really feel the deep friendship between these guys.



The conversation with friends Jason and Malachi, both recent graduates of Princeton University, was an unexpected gift to the Dap Project.  They share their experience at the storied institution, “where giving dap felt like a revolutionary act.”  We also hear what Jason said to Malachi that radically changed his perception of what black men can do to change the world. 



Aaron remembers the first dap with friends George Ashton and Keir Gumbs at their investment club meeting. We invited them to the Dap Project to relive the moment, talk about the  “privilege” of giving dap as a corporate leader, and ponder the resurgence of dap in a post-COVID world. 

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